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Hapkido is very hard to teach . Hapkido requires mature artist to be able to teach it properly. Thirdly many people have tried to incorporate it into other Art Forms like Tae Kwon do when they don't have a good enough bacis to even attempt to be come inovative because of the lack of understanding. Fourth to become a good hapkido instructor it requirers years of instruction. One ofthe contributors on the net replied that their is a difference between studying under a Master and teching it. He is absolutely right. In traditional Hapkido when one makes black belt he is considered to have mastered teh basics. Teaching and learning is to different things to be able to teach is another story you must be taught to teach a good program will incorporate this tecnique inits instruction program again requiring the understanding of a Master instructor. Finally becoming a master can not be brought it is when your student recognize you as a master. Again many practioner teach
Tae Know do because it sells. You can teach many more students and paythe bills. Tae Kwon Teachers run out of tecnique because Taekwon do don't get me wrong is effective hand s and feet but doen't have the complexity of the grappling styles like Hapkido . They are both Korean styles and therefore are kindred but Hapkido in it's developement has highly advanced grappling techniques. It continues to evolve and at it's best is a life time experience. To all who have studied under Sang hon Park /Ji Han Jae /Kwang Sik Myung/ Bo su Han and hundreds of other great Master remember circular motion the water principle and non resistance.
Remember the honor and dignity of these great men who comitted their lifes to the study and fortification of this great art form. We in american must get awayfrom the "quickie" Hapkido is not a "quickie or a side order. " At it's best is more than most can handle. Master Carlton Lundy to God be the glory"

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It seems as though the problem is that many people do not have the patience to become a student and want it to all come over night. I know that this is not a new development, but in arts like ours it seems to cause more of a problem than in others. this is in many ways. First, the technical aspects of the art make it undesirable for hobbyists and practitioners who are still on the fence about how serious they are about their studies. Secondly, those with prior martial arts experience seem to think that they can just jump right in, learn the techniques and now they are proficient on them and are qualified to teach. They don't realize the level of hard work the art and its techniques take to master. Third, it seems as though many people are just plain lazy or feel like they do not have the time for a technical art that requires a lot of dedication and hard work just to become proficient at let alone master the techniques and principles of. Arts like Hapkido will stay small and misunderstood as long as these conditions and societies outlook on difficult arts stay as they are. As well, as long as people continue to learn HKD and incorporate it into other arts and teach it without a complete understanding of it and using fragments techniques, our art will be on the verge of become either extinct or so watered down and diluted that it would be all but useless.
Great post!

I had to just about quit taekwondo in order to progress beyond rank basics in hapkido. As long as I was doing both at the same time, I just kept making my hapkido into TKD with grapples, which is not what hapkido is. It took a long break from taekwondo to shake me of this. Now, I can probably do both, but I never did fully returned to taekwondo.

I can mainly only say that I agree with you.

I find that people who graft hapkido onto taekwondo often do so because they do not have a full enough understanding of taekwondo, and thus seek to fill all of these perceived holes in the art. Rather than teaching a few useful grapples (which are in taekwondo for those who care to look) and a solid TKD program, they add "hapkido" because firstly, they do not have a solid TKD program, and secondly, they can inflate their literature, and thirdly, their hapkido is not solid enough to teach a good hapkido program.

Yes there are exceptions, but for the most part, this is what I have observed.


I agree and dis-agree too, can I do that? we must keep in mind tae kwon do is a generic term used to cover all the various styles of karate practiced in korea Not all of these styles had grappling as part of the curriculum and so they borrowed from a source outside the base inorder to improve what they practice.  This is no different  than what hapkido practitioners have been doing all along, just take into account all the kicking and countless other techniques that didn't belong to the original art when introduced to korea by its founder. We as artist need to continue this adding what works and eliminating the useless inorder to let hapkido remain an art of practical self-defense. lets not lose track of the fact that every year hapkido seems to have more and more techniques, how many techniques can you drill in  a day a week, If we dont drill the technique it wont flow like water infact all it will be is one of those thoughts "i should have done that" if you are still around to think it.

I would have to agree with you there. There are to many instructors who dabble in diffent arts, and then try to teach them to others, when they don't have a full understanding themselves. I train in taekwondo and Hapkido, and im lucky enough to train in a school that teaches martial arts, not just some fitness class. Some taekwondo schools are just fitness classes, and dont really teach you anything, maybe a few kicks a few forms. They just want to grab money of people, and its these so called schools that destroy arts like taekwondo and Hapkido. I come from a chung di kwan school, we're thought old style taekwondo, there's kicks, puches, strikes, elbow, knee, basic but effective self defence, it has full range of techniques. Don't get me wrong there are also some schools out there that concentrate on sport taekwondo, and there's nothing wrong with that, I enjoy watching sport taekwondo myself, i have friends that compete in it, and they work really hard at it. It just some schools pretend to teach something that they don't. You teach sport taekwondo for competitions or Taekwondo anything in the middle are just schools that don't have a full understanding



I like what you've said.  I teach a very few students.  I began with just two.  Recently, they asked if they could invite a third.  I took that as a compliment.  I'd put together a syllabus as a result of the 257 different teaching styles I've encountered over 20 years of martial arts (I'm exaggerating the number for effect).  I don't consider myself a master at all.  I do believe that to teach is to learn and it's a natural progression for someone that is not black belt goal oriented and instead wants to have Hapkido as part of their lifestyle.  I am a huge proponent of the principles of Hapkido.  I believe that since Hapkido is a living and evolving art, it's the principles that are the foundation.  Luckily for me, I teach for free.  I'm not bound by any need to quickly advance someone since I'm not motivated by the dollar.  From the very beginning I've imparted on the student that a strong foundation is most important and even the advanced students still perform the most basic foundational techniques as a result of this.   This helped me a lot to focus on what seems very easy and basic before moving on.  I do think a student should learn something every time they go to class though...  
I'm sitting before I go to teach a class reading,skipping through. HAPKIDO by dr. He Young kimm basic to fifth dan and his other book the hapkido bible and there's no ground fighting or any mention of it so where did it come from I learned a lot from the British Hapkido Associaton who trained under gm kimm but it was more judo orientated due to one of the instructors so my question is where did the ground fighting come into hapkido

From my understanding, a lot of the older Korean masters did not like to go to the ground, even though Judo was a prevalent art at the time. Because of this a lot of them neglected the ground and avoided it all together, instruction to. This caused many of the early students to loose out on this area of instruction.

So to the point was there any ground fighting in choi 270 techniques who's qualified to teach. I know some ground work is it fair to add to my sylabus or do I just teach it once a month? On another point. 16april gm geoff j booth will be in glasgow anyone want to train

Hi David

Good to hear you are still training Where and when is GM Booth doing the training in Glasgow.


hello grandmaster gaitens i never stopped training just kept quiet. gm booth will be in glasgow 16th and 17th april,he will be showing dan bong skills on the monday night in kilmarnock but as yet i have nothing planned for the tuesday. i have been offered free matt space in the griphouse(possil) during the day so hoping to get some training from the man you are welcome  to join, i have always stated that no one has been teaching hapkido in scotland longer than you,and if they dont wont to train with myself then you are the man to see hope to here from you soon

Ya know, that is a good point. I have never actually heard anyone say that Choi taught ground fighting, just that he taught Judo guys and that the ground work of Hapkido has been forgotten. 

Can anyone clarify this 100%?




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